Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/22/2008 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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SENATE BILL NO. 249                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act establishing the Alaska capstone avionics                                                                          
     revolving loan fund and relating to the fund; and                                                                          
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  introduced the initial hearing  for SB 249,                                                                   
sponsored by the Governor.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
FRANK  RICHARDS, DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER  OF  HIGHWAYS &  PUBLIC                                                                   
FACILITIES,   DEPARTMENT   OF   TRANSPORTATION   AND   PUBLIC                                                                   
FACILITIES,  explained that  SB 249 would  create the  Alaska                                                                   
Capstone Avionics  Revolving Loan Fund within  the Department                                                                   
of Commerce, Community and Economic  Development (DCCED). The                                                                   
purpose of the project is to increase  the safety of aviation                                                                   
transportation within Alaska by  providing low interest loans                                                                   
for  the  purchase  and  installation  of  Capstone  avionics                                                                   
equipment.  Capstone  avionics  is  the  next  generation  of                                                                   
technology and will improve both  flight safety and community                                                                   
access  in  Alaska.  The  technology   is  called  "Automatic                                                                   
Dependent   Surveillance-Broadcast"    (ADS-B)   and   allows                                                                   
equipped aircraft to interact  with ground infrastructure and                                                                   
satellite   stations  to   provide   pilots  with   essential                                                                   
information,  including: exact  location,  airspeed, rate  of                                                                   
accent and descent,  surrounding terrain, other  aircraft and                                                                   
real time weather. The Federal  Aviation Administration (FAA)                                                                   
sponsored the technology and tested it in rural Alaska.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  stressed  that the aircraft  equipped  with the                                                                   
new avionics experienced  a 47% reduction in  accidents and a                                                                   
33%  reduction in  fatalities. He  said FAA  wants to  expand                                                                   
this  technology  statewide  and  has funding  to  build  the                                                                   
necessary infrastructure.  The FAA  has determined  that over                                                                   
4,000 aircraft need to be equipped  with the avionics. Senate                                                                   
Bill 249  creates a low-interest  loan program  through DCCED                                                                   
for aircraft owners  unable to shoulder the  initial purchase                                                                   
cost  out-of-pocket. He  emphasized  that  the Department  of                                                                   
Transportation and Public Facilities supports SB 249.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:13:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GREG WINEGAR,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF INVESTMENTS,  DEPARTMENT                                                                   
OF COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,  described                                                                   
the  loan  program.   He  explained  that  the   Division  of                                                                   
Investments has been administering  state loan programs since                                                                   
the  early  1970s  and has  experience,  expertise  and  loan                                                                   
related infrastructure  in place to successfully  operate the                                                                   
program proposed by SB 249. Many  of the provisions contained                                                                   
in the bill were patterned after  other programs administered                                                                   
by the Division.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Winegar  explained  that   the  loan  fund  would  allow                                                                   
aircraft owners who log a substantial  number of flight hours                                                                   
in  Alaska to  purchase and  install  the necessary  Capstone                                                                   
avionics. The  program would be  set up as a  revolving fund.                                                                   
Repayments into  the fund would  finance loans  to additional                                                                   
participants and the operating costs of the program.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Winegar said SB 249 stipulates  that the program can loan                                                                   
up to 80% of  the cost to purchase and install  the avionics,                                                                   
the interest rate  cannot be less than four  percent, and the                                                                   
term may not  exceed ten years. He described  an average loan                                                                   
for  the program  of $12,000,  which would  mean payments  of                                                                   
approximately  $122   each  month  or  $1480   annually.  The                                                                   
Division's goal was to provide  loan terms that resulted in a                                                                   
manageable   repayment  plan   for  aircraft  owners,   while                                                                   
providing  sufficient cash  flow to  cover expenses,  provide                                                                   
loans  to future  participants,  and  return  capital to  the                                                                   
General Fund (GF).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Winegar  referred to the  fiscal note, which  capitalizes                                                                   
the loan fund  with a $4.8 million appropriation.  The amount                                                                   
would allow the  Division to provide approximately  400 loans                                                                   
during the  first year  and around  60 additional loans  each                                                                   
year thereafter.  The program would sunset in  2020, at which                                                                   
time the  money in the  fund as well  as all future  earnings                                                                   
would revert  back to  the GF. Senate  Bill 249 requests  two                                                                   
positions,  one loan officer  and one  loan closer  to handle                                                                   
the  increased  workload;  however, the  positions  would  be                                                                   
filled  only if  loan  demands  required them.  The  Division                                                                   
plans to absorb accounting-related work.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:15:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  wondered if  the State  would save search  and                                                                   
rescue  money that  would not  be needed because  of the  new                                                                   
technology. Mr. Richards thought there would be savings.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:16:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  noticed that the  fund would be  available to                                                                   
individuals,  corporations, limited  liability  partnerships,                                                                   
and so on. He understood the cost  to equip an aircraft would                                                                   
be in the  range of $15,000  to $25,000 and wondered  if this                                                                   
was for  small planes  and small  carriers rather than  large                                                                   
planes.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:17:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Winegar  answered  that the  loan program  is set up  for                                                                   
commercial  operators to  have access  to the funds.  Senator                                                                   
Thomas was concerned  that the funds in the  program would be                                                                   
available  to larger  carriers  that would  be  more able  to                                                                   
afford the  avionics. Mr.  Winegar replied  that the  loan is                                                                   
first-come,  first-served,   and  would  be   for  commercial                                                                   
carriers or individual, private pilots.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:18:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton wondered  if the loan fund would  be accessible                                                                   
to people  who have already  installed the Capstone  avionics                                                                   
and are  paying off a loan  at a higher percentage  rate. Mr.                                                                   
Richards   thought   that   would   be   determined   through                                                                   
regulations.  In other programs,  most loans  are set  up for                                                                   
new loans, although  there are provisions to  pay off interim                                                                   
financing.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton wondered  if the  loan would  be available  to                                                                   
non-Alaskan residents,  such as a big game  guide who resides                                                                   
in another  state.  Mr. Richards  responded that  eligibility                                                                   
relates not  to residency but  to the number of  flight hours                                                                   
logged in Alaska.  The number of flight hours  required would                                                                   
be  determined by  regulation.  Senator  Elton wondered  what                                                                   
"substantial percentage" of flight  hours in the state meant.                                                                   
Mr. Richards guessed the number would be 90%.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:20:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Winegar  explained that there  are about 10,000  aircraft                                                                   
in  Alaska, of  which  6,500-7,000  are operable.  FAA  chose                                                                   
4,000 as the number  of aircraft that they felt  needed to be                                                                   
equipped  because those  aircraft represented  around 90%  of                                                                   
the flight hours logged in the state.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  referred to the  provision regarding  the loan                                                                   
term of ten years and wondered  if it were possible to extend                                                                   
the term  of the  loan. Mr.  Richards replied  that there  is                                                                   
some flexibility.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:23:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE STEDMAN, DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS,  WINGS OF ALASKA; VICE-                                                                   
PRESIDENT,  ALASKA AIR  CARRRIERS  ASSOCIATION, testified  in                                                                   
support  of 249. He  spoke as  a pilot  with thirty  years of                                                                   
experience in  Alaska. He piloted  24 of those  years without                                                                   
Capstone  avionics.  He  described  the  safety  benefits  of                                                                   
having  an  aircraft  equipped   with  the  avionics.  Before                                                                   
Capstone was  available, there was an accident  approximately                                                                   
every 29  days in the  Yukon-Kuskokwim Delta.  More recently,                                                                   
there  was a  29  month  period between  accidents.  Capstone                                                                   
enhances situational  awareness substantially.  He emphasized                                                                   
the importance  of real  time weather  information.  Wings of                                                                   
Alaska currently has 12 airplanes  with the equipment and the                                                                   
pilots fully embrace it.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:26:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stedman  demonstrated what  a pilot  sees in an  airplane                                                                   
equipped  with Capstone  avionics. He  projected onto  a drop                                                                   
screen  in  the  Committee  room   what  currently  operating                                                                   
aircraft  could  see.  Green,   moving  diamonds  showed  the                                                                   
position  of   aircraft  in  the   area.  The   program  gave                                                                   
identification,  altitude,  and   relative  position  of  the                                                                   
different aircraft.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:30:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked if  there  had  been a  decrease  in                                                                   
accidents  and fatalities  in other areas  around the  state.                                                                   
Mr. Stedman said generally yes,  although data is still being                                                                   
collected. Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if the industry  supports                                                                   
the amount  of allocation and  the time frame  recommended by                                                                   
SB  249. Mr.  Stedman  thought  the proposed  revolving  loan                                                                   
program is a good start. He explained  that Alaska would need                                                                   
to equip  4,000 within  five years  to get  the full  funding                                                                   
from FAA.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas wondered if the  appropriation were sufficient                                                                   
to cover  equipping 4,000 planes.  Mr. Stedman  answered that                                                                   
the amount would  cover approximately 90 airplanes  the first                                                                   
year.  Over the five  years the  amount would  be around  $34                                                                   
million to equip 4,000 planes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  for  an  overview  of  the  federal                                                                   
government's  participation.  Mr.  Stedman replied  that  the                                                                   
federal government  has committed $497 million  to this point                                                                   
and if  Alaska does not equip  4,000 planes, $187  million of                                                                   
that will be lost.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:33:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JERE  HAYSLETT,   PROJECT  MANAGER,  SURVEILLANCE   BROADCAST                                                                   
SERVICES   AND   CAPSTONE   PROGRAM,   FAA   (TESTIFIED   VIA                                                                   
TELECONFERENCE),   clarified   that  FAA   currently  has   a                                                                   
commitment of  $493 million for infrastructure.  If the 4,000                                                                   
aircraft  are not  equipped  in five  years,  FAA would  only                                                                   
commit to $306 million.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:34:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  wondered  how  far  off  shore  the  Capstone                                                                   
coverage went. Mr.  Stedman thought it went  around 30 miles,                                                                   
although it depends on the altitude  of the aircraft. Senator                                                                   
Olson  asked how  rapidly the  data is  updated. Mr.  Stedman                                                                   
replied that the information is real time.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  wondered what  kind  of commitment  has  been                                                                   
secured  from the  general  aviation community.  Mr.  Stedman                                                                   
said the Alaska  Airmen's Association has conducted  a survey                                                                   
to see how many aircraft owners  would equip their planes and                                                                   
how  much they  would  be willing  to pay  for  it. There  is                                                                   
general support.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  asked if  the Air  Carriers Association  had a                                                                   
position regarding  whether re-financing should  be available                                                                   
for  aircraft that  already have  the system,  or should  the                                                                   
priority  be to  add equipment  to  additional aircraft  that                                                                   
have  none.  Mr.  Stedman thought  that  the  more  airplanes                                                                   
equipped the better.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:38:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson pointed  out that  he did not  see letters  of                                                                   
support from the Alaska Airmen's  Association and wondered if                                                                   
the program  would be more  attractive if the  loan structure                                                                   
was better.   Mr.  Stedman thought it  would be difficult  to                                                                   
equip 4,000  air planes within  five years and  any incentive                                                                   
to help the general aviation pilot would help immensely.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:40:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson realized  how prohibitive  it was for  general                                                                   
aviation  pilots   to  carry   insurance,  and   wondered  if                                                                   
insurance  carriers would  drop rates  for aircraft  equipped                                                                   
with avionics. Mr. Stedman thought  that as the accident rate                                                                   
went  down, premiums  would go  down as  well. Senator  Dyson                                                                   
asked if  the insurance  carriers would  only respond  to the                                                                   
accident rate. Mr. Stedman did not know.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:41:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LEONARD   KIRK,   UNIVERSITY   OF   ALASKA   (TESTIFIED   VIA                                                                   
TELECONFERENCE),  spoke in  support of  SB 249.  He said  the                                                                   
University  of  Alaska  (UA)  has been  part  of  the  safety                                                                   
evaluation  of the  Capstone system  in the  Yukon-Kuskoskwim                                                                   
Delta.  The  University  has  also  been  involved  in  pilot                                                                   
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Kirk answered  Senator Olson's  question  about how  far                                                                   
ADS-B  reaches:  approximately  120 nautical  miles  line-of-                                                                   
sight. A ground-based transceiver  located at Sitka could see                                                                   
an  aircraft  120 miles  out  over  the  ocean. He  said  the                                                                   
information is updated every second.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
WILFRED RYAN, ALASKA AIR CARRIERS  ASSOCIATION (TESTIFIED VIA                                                                   
TELECONFERENCE),  spoke in favor of  HB 249 and  gave further                                                                   
answers to  Committee members'  questions. Regarding  Senator                                                                   
Elton's  question about  the position  of the Association  on                                                                   
refinancing, he said the official  position is that operators                                                                   
should have the opportunity to  refinance their equipment. He                                                                   
added that the  Alaska Airmen's Association does  support the                                                                   
program fully.  He said  there has  been approximately  a 20%                                                                   
reduction in insurance rates since the program's inception.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:46:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ryan said Alaska has been  on the forefront with research                                                                   
and development  for the ADS-B  program. Currently  Alaska is                                                                   
competing  against  the  rest  of  the  nation  in  receiving                                                                   
ground-based transceivers.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ryan  gave testimony in  support of SB 249,  representing                                                                   
the  Alaska Air  Carriers  Association,  the Alaska  Airmen's                                                                   
Association and the Alaska Aviation  Safety Foundation. These                                                                   
groups represent  nearly all commercial and  general aviation                                                                   
constituents in  Alaska. Because more  than 90% of  Alaska is                                                                   
accessible  only  by air,  Alaska  has the  highest  aviation                                                                   
accident  rate  in  the  nation.   The  expedited  state-wide                                                                   
implementation  of  proven Capstone  safety  technologies  is                                                                   
essential for the future of flying  safety. During a ten year                                                                   
period  from 1997  to  2006, there  were  124 fatal  aviation                                                                   
crashes in Alaska. Many of these  pilots were mid-career. The                                                                   
National  Institute for  Occupational Safety  and Health  has                                                                   
determined  that based  on their annual  salaries, the  total                                                                   
loss in earnings exceeded $226 million.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:49:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ryan  noted  that  the  five-year  plan  includes  4,000                                                                   
Alaskan-based   aircraft,  approximately   1,000   commercial                                                                   
aircraft  and 3,000  general  aviation  aircraft. The  safety                                                                   
incentive program  will enable  Alaskan operators  to install                                                                   
the  safety   equipment.  Once  implemented   statewide,  FAA                                                                   
anticipates  a   33%  reduction  in  fatal   accidents,  more                                                                   
effective search and rescue operations,  and a public benefit                                                                   
of approximately $824 million over the next 27 years.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:51:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  if Mr. Ryan  could think  of any  other                                                                   
incentives the  State could use  to entice people to  use the                                                                   
program. Mr. Ryan  thought it would be  extremely challenging                                                                   
to  bring  the  general aviation  group  into  the  incentive                                                                   
program. Research  has indicated that the population  is only                                                                   
willing to spend  about $2,500 each to equip  their airplane,                                                                   
and  the  avionics   package  costs  about   $12,000.  Alaska                                                                   
Airmen's   Association  currently   has   about  180   people                                                                   
interested in the program, but  feel it would be difficult to                                                                   
attract  3,000  equippers  from the  general  aviation  group                                                                   
unless there is financial incentive.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:52:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PUBLIC TESTIMONY CLOSED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   reminded    the   Committee   that   the                                                                   
implementation  of SB  249  would open  up  another fund.  He                                                                   
wanted  to critically  look at  the $120,000  for travel  and                                                                   
supplies in the fiscal note.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB  249  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in  Committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE        9:54:15 AM                                                                                                       
RECONVENE      10:04:05 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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